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THE FIRST CONTACT BETWEEN A
CHRISTIAN AND MUSLIM
C.
Why have there been in the last decade many
discussions held between Christians and Muslims about their
beliefs?
M.
I think because we both have several things
in common. We believe in the One Creator Who had sent many
Prophets and in Jesus as the Messiah as well as the Word of God
which had been denied by the Jews.
Our Holy Qur’an mentions in Surah 3:45: “[Remember] when the
angels said, “O mary! Verily Allah gives you the glad tidings of a
Word from Him, his name will be Messiah Jesus, the son of Mary,
held in honor in this world and in the hereafter, and of those who
are near to Allah……”
Dialogues have been held everywhere in Europe, Canada, the USA and
Australia. Even the Vatican is not spared where discussions were
held between Vatican theologians and Egyptian Muslim scholars in
Rome in 1970 and in Cairo in 1974 and 1978. Also between Vatican
theologians and Saudi Arabian Muslim scholars in Rome in 1974.
Many times in Colombo, not to mention Muslims invited by many
churches to present Islam.
C.
If Christianity is nearly two thousand
years old and Islam more than fourteen hundred years, why were
these discussions not held centuries ago?
M.
For the last three to four centuries many
Asian and African countries dominated by Muslims were colonized by
Britain, France, Holland, Belgium, Spain and Portugal. Many
Christian mission colonists tried to convert as many Muslims as
they could by whatever means they had, by giving them medical
treatment, clothes, food, jobs to the poor, but only a few were
converted. A small part of the elite were converted to
Christianity because of their prejudice that Christianity brought
them to their civilization and progress of knowledge. They had a
wrong notion because this progress was attained after the
separation of state and church in Europe.
After the Second World War many Muslims from Asian and African
countries were immigrating as workers and professionals to the
Western Hemisphere, Which brought them more in contact with the
Christians. Also students were active in introducing Islam.
C.
Do you see other reasons why many dialogues
were held nowadays even by their respective missions?
M.
I think the gap between both is becoming
smaller as each is more tolerant, although both are still
competing in getting more converts. I still remember my Christian
teacher who used to say, “Muhammad the imposter, the dreamer, the
epileptic.” You now find fewer writers depicting Islam in such a
manner.
We Muslims feel closer to the Christians than to the Jews and
disbeliever’s, as the Qur’an prophesied in Surah 5:82: “Thou wilt
find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who
believe (to be) Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the
nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those
who say: Lo! We are Christians. This is because there are among
them priests and monks (i.e. persons entirely devoted to the
service of service of God, as were the Muslims), and because they
are not proud.” Some Christian denominations are making tremendous
progress now by acknowledging for the first time in history that
Muhammad [PBUH] descended from Ishmael through his second son
Kedar. The Davis Dictionary of the Bible, 1980, sponsored by the
Board of Christian Education of the Presbyterian Church in the
USA, writes under the word Kedar: “ … A tribe descended from
Ishmael (Gen. 25:13) … The people of Kedar were Pliny’s Cedrai,
and from their tribe Mohammed ultimately arose.” The International
Standard Bible Encyclopedia quotes the following from A.S. Fulton:
“… of the Ishmaelite tribes, Kedar must have been one of the most
important, and thus in later times the name came to be applied to
all the wild tribes of the desert. It is through Kedar (Arab,
Keidar) that Muslim genealogists trace the descent of Mohammed
from Ishmael.”
Also Smith’s Bible Dictionary will not stay behind and prints the
following: “Kedar (black). Second son of Ishmael (Gen. 25:13) ….
Mohammed traces his lineage to Abraham through the celebrated
Koreish tribe, which sprang from Kedar. The Arabs in the Hejaz are
called Beni Harb (men of war), and are Ishmaelite as of old, from
their beginning. Palgrave says their language is as pure now as
when the Koran was written (A.D.610), having remained unchanged
more than 1200 years; a fine proof of the permanency of eastern
Institutions.”
The biggest asset brought by Muslim immigrants to the Western
hemisphere is not their manpower but Islam which is now taking
root here. Many mosques and Islamic centers are established and
many are reverted into Islam. I prefer the word reverted and not
converted, as everybody is born in submission to Allah, i.e.
Islam, this is the nature of every child born. The parents or the
community convert him to Judaism, Christianity, other faiths, or
atheism.
This is also a proof that Islam is not spreading by the sword but
simply by propagation by individuals or groups of Muslims. We
don’t have special missions organized as in Christian missions.
The world population has increased 136% from 1984, Christianity
with 47% and Islam with 235%. See The plain Truth, February
1984, in its 50 year Anniversary issue, quoting from the world
Almanac and
Book of Facts 1935 and Reader’s Digest
Almanac and
Year book 1983.
C.
If all three religions, Judaism,
Christianity and Islam, are claiming to emanate from the One and
same Creator, why do they differ?
M.
All Prophets from Adam to Muhammad [PBUT]
were sent with the same message: that is, the total submission of
mankind to Allah. This submission in Arabic is called Islam, Islam
means also peace, peace between the Creator and His creatures.
Unlike the names Judaism and Christianity, this name Islam has
been given by Allah, the Creator Himself, as mentioned in Surah
5:3: “This day I have perfected your religion for you and
completed My favor on you, and have chosen for as the way of life
Al-Islam as your religion.” Neither the name Judaism nor
Christianity is found in the Bible, not even in a Bible
dictionary. No Israelite prophet mentioned the word Judaism. Jesus
never claimed to establish Christianity on earth and never called
himself a Christian. The word Christian is mentioned only three
times in the New Testament and first by pagans and Jews in Antioch
about 43 A.D, long after Jesus had left this earth. Read in Acts
11:26: “…And the disciples were calied Christians first in
Antioch.”
Later by King Agrippa II to Paul in Acts 26:28: “Then Agrippa said
unto Paul, Almost thou persuades me to be a Christian.”
So the name Christian was first given by foes rather than friends.
And finally by Peter in his letter to comfort the faithful in I
Peter 4:16: “Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be
ashamed…”
The first Muslim on earth is not Muhammad but Abraham who
submitted totally to Allah. But Islam as a way of life had been
revealed to other prophets prior to Abraham like Adam and Noah.
Then Islam follows as the way of life for all humanity.
C.
How could Abraham be a Muslim? He is known
as a Jew!
M.
A Jew? Who told you that?
C.
We are taught that; it must be confirmed by
the Bible, too.
M.
Can you show me where in the Bible it says
that he is a Jew? If you can’t find it quickly, let me help you.
Read Genesis 11:31.
C.
“And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot the
son of Haran his son’s son, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son
Abram’s wife, and they went forth with them from Ur of the
Chaldees, to go into the land of Canaan; and they came unto Haran
and dwelt there.”
C.
So Abraham who was born in Ur of Chaldees
could not have been a Jew. First because Ur of Chaldees was in
Mesopotamia, which is now a part of Iraq. He was then more an Arab
than a Jew. Secondly the name Jew came after the existence of
Judah, the great-grandson of Abraham (see chart on page 4). Read
further, Genesis 12:4 and 5.
C.
“…and Abram was seventy and five years old
when he departed out of Haran …… and into the land of Canaan
they came.”
M. So Abraham emigrated to
Canaan at the age of seventy-five and the Bible clearly mentioned
that he was there a stranger in Genesis 17:8: “And I will
give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou
art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting
possession; and I will be their God." Read now Genesis 14:13.
C.
"And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew;"
M. How can you call Abraham a
Jew if the Bible itself calls him a Hebrew which means a man from
the other side of the Euphrates. It also means pertaining to Eber,
a descendant of Shem. Read now in Genesis 32:28 what happened to
name of Jacob after wrestling with an angel.
C. "And he said, Thy
name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel; for as a prince
hast thou power with men, and hast prevailed."
M. So Abraham was a Hebrew.
The descendants of Jacob were Israelites consisting of the twelve
tribes. Judah was nicknamed "Jew" so that only Judah's descendants
were called Jews originally.
To know who Moses really was, read Exodus 6:16-20.
C. "And these are the
names of the sons of levi according to their generations;
Ghershon, and Kohath, and Merari ……… And the sons of Kohath: Amram
…. And Amram took him Jochebed his father's sister to wife; and
she bare him Aaron and Moses,"
M. So Moses was not a Jew
because he was not descended from Judah but a Levite. Moses was
the "law-giver" (Torah is law) to the children of Israel.
C.
How can you explain that?
M. Because we are using the
Holy Qur'an as standard. You can explain the Bible and correct the
Jewish and Christian prejudice with the context of the Qur'an. It
is the last revealed Book which has never been corrupted or
adulterated. Its contents has been guaranteed by Allah in Surah
2:2: "This is the Scripture where of there is no doubt …." And
also in Surah 15:9: "No doubt We have sent down the Qur'an and
surely We will guard it (from corruption)." This verse is a
challenge to mankind. It is a clear fact that more than fourteen
hundred years have passed and not a single word of this Qur'an has
been changed although disbelievers tried their utmost to change
it, but they failed miserably in their efforts. As it is mentioned
in this Holy Verse: "We will guard this Book," by Allah, He has
guarded it.
On the contrary, all the other holy books (Torah, Psalms, Gospels,
etc.) have been adulterated in the form of additions, deletions or
alterations from the original.
C.
What does the Qur'an say about Abraham Moses that you can deduce
it from the Bible?
M. In Surah 3:69: "O people of
the Scripture [Jews and Christians]! Why do you dispute about
Abraham, while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till
after him? Have you then no sense?"
And in Surah 3:67: "Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but
he was a true Muslim (worshiper of none but Allah alone) and he
joined none in worship with Allah."
In Surah 2:140: "Or say you that Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob
and the twelve sons of Jacob were Jews or Christians? Say (O,
Muhammad), "Do you know better or does Allah (know better)? And
who is more unjust than he who conceals the testimony he has from
Allah? And Allah is not unaware of what you do." Of course they
were not Jews or Christians as the name Jews came after Judah and
the name Christians came long after Jesus had left.
C.
It feels strange to hear the name Allah. Why don't you say god if
you speak English?
M. Yes, indeed, the name Allah
seems to be strange to non-Muslims but this name has been used by
all Prophets since Adam until Muhammad [PBUT]. It is a contraction
of the two Arabic words Al-llah, i.e. The God. By dropping
the letter "I" you will find the word Allah. According to its
position in an Arabic sentence it can have the form Allah which is
close to the Hebrew name of the Creator, i.e. Eloha. But
the Jews are using wrongly the plural form Elohim which denotes
more than one God. The word Allah sounds closer to the Aramaic
word for God used by Jesus, namely Allah (see Encyclopedia
Britannica 1980 under Allah and Elohim). So while the name Allah
is strange to non-Muslims, it is not strange to all Prophets from
Adam to Muhammad [PBUT], as they propagated in principle the same
Islam, i.e. total submission, and the word Allah denotes
the personal name of the Supreme Being. It is not subject to
plurality or gender, so there is no such thing as Allahs, or male
or female Allah, as there is Gods or God and Goddess. It is
confusing to use the word God as many English-speaking Christians
still consider Jesus as God. Even the word Creator is also
confusing, as many Christians still maintain that Jesus had
created the world. Not only the name Allah is strange, but also
the way Muslims worship Allah with ablution, bowing, kneeling,
prostration and fasting is strange to non-Muslims, but not strange
to all Prophets. While ablution (washing of face. Arms, feet, and
moistening of the hair) prior to worship is abandoned by modern
Christians, it is still required by Muslims and previous Prophets,
as seen in the following passages of the Bible: Exodus 40:31-32:
“and Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their
feet thereat; When they went into the tent of the congregation,
and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the Lord
commanded Moses.” Although Paul made many changes in Jesus’
teaching, he was still faithful in respect to ablution as seen in
Acts 21:26: “Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying
himself with them entered into the temple …” Muslim women perform
their prayer with their head covered as in I Corinthians 11:5, 6
and 13: “But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head
uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if
she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be
shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let
her be covered … Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman
pray unto God uncovered?” Muslims worship with bowing, kneeling,
prostration and without shoes as done by previous Prophets: Psalm
95:6: “O come, let us worship a and bow down: let us kneel before
the Lord our maker.” Joshua 5:14: “And Joshua fell on his face to
the earth, and did worship ……” I kings 18:42: “And Elijah went up
to the top of Carmel; and he cast himself down upon the earth, and
put his face between his knees.” Numbers 20:6 “…… and they [Moses
and Aaron] fell upon their faces: and the glory of the Lord
appeared upon them.” Genesis 17:3: “ And Abram fell on his face:
and God talked with him, saying …..” Exodus 3:5 and Acts 7:33:
“And he [God] said [to Moses], Draw not nigh hither: put off thy
shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standees is
holy ground.”
A Christian will shiver in hearing that Pilgrimage or Haj as is
now done by Muslims by circumambulating around the sacred stone
Ka’bah in Mecca, had been performed by many Prophets, even by
Israelite Prophets.
C.
I never read Pilgrimage or sacred stone in the Bible.
M.
This has been mentioned clearly several time but overlooked by
Bible readers:
1. Jacob on his
way to Padan-aram saw a vision and built the next morning a pillar
of stone which he called Beth-El, i.e. the House of the
Lord (Genesis 28:18-19).
2. Year later the
same Prophet, Jacob, was ordered by Allah to go to Beth-EI
(Genesis 35:4,14,15). Jacob removed all the strange Gods prior to
going there. Later also Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] removed all idols
around the sacred stone Ka’bah in Mecca.
3. Another pillar
was built by Jacob and his father-in-law Laban (Genesis) 31:45-49:
“And Jacob took a stone, and set it up for a pillar. And Jacob
said unto his brethren, Gather stones; and they took stones, and
made an heap; and they did eat there upon the heap. And Laban
called it Jegar-sahadutha, but Jacob called it Galeed ….. And
Mizpah; for he said, The Lord watch between me and thee…..”
4. Jephthah and
Ammon had a war against each other. Jephthah swore to the Lord in
Mizpeh of Gilead to sacrifice his only daughter if he won. He did
win, and burnt his daughter there alive as an offering to the Lord
(Judges 11:29-39)
5. Four hundred
thousand swordsmen from the eleven tribes of Israel swore before
the Lord in Mizpeh to exterminate the tribes of Benjamin (Judges
20 and 21).
6. The children of
Israel under Samuel swore in Mizpeh to destroy their idols if they
won against the Philistines (I Samuel 7).
7. The whole
nation of Israel assembled in Mizpeh when Samuel was appointed
king of Israel (I Samuel 10).
It is obvious now that there is no Mizpah left in the world except
the oldest one in the Holy City of Mecca built by Abraham and his
son Ishmael, from whom later Prophet Muhammad arose. Muslims are
really the followers of all Prophets. I can tell you other things
about Muslims, Islam and Muhammad [PBUH] in the Bible, but why
should you know this if you are not looking for the truth?
C. I am sure of my own
belief as a Christian but I am stimulated to know more about both
religions. I feel sometimes ridiculed as a Christian after reading
books written by Muslims.
M.
Did it affect you in your religious life?
C. Yes, I am not going
to Church as regularly as before. I have been secretly reading
books written by Muslims. I have asked several Muslims what was
not clear to me, but not to my satisfaction. I am looking for a
belief that I can rely on, that can give me peace of mind,
scientifically acceptable, and not just believe in it blindly.
M. It should be like that. I
appreciate your attitude. But we are not allowed to allure anyone.
We propagate only to those who want to listen to us.
C.
But I am free to choose any belief I like and nobody can stop me.
M.
Yes, there is no compulsion in religion.
C.
Why are Muslims calling other people to accept their belief, then?
M. As Christians ask the Jews
to accept Jesus as the Messiah, we Muslims ask the Christians as
well as Jews and all mankind to accept Muhammad [PBUH] as the Seal
of all Prophets. Our Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] said: “Convey my
message even one ayah (verse of the Holy Qur’an).”
Also, Isaiah mentioned in chapter 21:13, “The burden upon Arabia.”
Which means the responsibility of the Muslim Arabs, of course of
all Muslims now, to spread the Islam. Isaiah mentioned this after
he saw in a vision a chariot of asses and a chariot of camels
(21:7): “And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot
of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently
with much heed."
The chariot of asses turned out to be Jesus who entered Jerusalem
(John 12:14; Matthew 21:5). Who then was the chariot of camels? It
could not be other than Muhammad [PBUH] who came about six hundred
years after the advent of the Messiah. If this is not accepted,
then this prophecy has not yet been fulfilled.
C. Your explanation
stimulates me to review the Bible more carefully. I would like to
get more discussions with you.
M. Yes, if you are successful
in this world, it doesn't mean that you will be successful in the
hereafter is much better and more lasting than this life. People
are now becoming more materialistic secular. Let us come together
several times and discuss the difference frankly and without
prejudice. Islam is based of reason, and you should not just
accept it. Even your Bible says, "Prove all things; hold fast that
which is good" (I Thessalonians 5:21).
C. You quoted just now
"chariot of camels" from Isaiah and made the conclusion that it is
Muhammad. Is he then prophesied in the Bible?
M.
Sure
C.
In the old or New testament?
M.
In both but you cannot recognize him in the
Bible as long as you don't believe in the Oneness of God. I mean
as long as you still believe in the trinity, the Divinity of
Jesus, the Divine Son ship of Jesus, the Original Sin and the
Atonement. All these are doctrines made by men. Jesus had
Prophesied (Matthew 15:9) that people will worship him uselessly
and believing in doctrines made by men. "But in vain they do
worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
THE HOLY
BIBLE
M.
Are you sure that the Bible is holy?
C.
Yes, I am very sure about it; it is God's word.
M.
Read what Luke said about his recording in 1:2 and 3.
C. "Even as the
delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were
eyewitnesses, and ministers of the world; It seemed good to me
also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very
first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus."
M. If Luke said that he
himself was not an eyewitness and the knowledge he gathered was
from eyewitnesses and not as words inspired God, do you still
believe the Bible is God's word?
C.
Maybe only this part is not God's word.
M History has shown that
the Bible suffered change throughout the ages. The revised
Standard version 1952 and 1971, the New American Standard Bible
and the new world Translation of the holy scriptures have expunged
certain verses compared with the King James Version. Reader's
Digest has reduced the Old testament by fifty percent and the New
Testament condensed by about twenty-five percent. Some years ago
Christian theologians wanted "desex" the Bible. Does "holy" mean
that the Bible is free from error?
C.
Yes that is so. But what kind of error do you mean?
M. Suppose one verse states
that a certain person died at the age of fifty years and another
verse states that the same person died at the age of sixty years,
can both statements be right?
C.
No, both statements can never be right. Only one can be right or
both are wrong.
M.
If a holy book contains conflicting verses, do you still conceder
it holy?
C. Of course not,
because a Holy Scripture is a revelation from God and it should be
impossible to contain mistake or conflicting verses.
M.
then it's not holy again.
C.
Right; its holiness disappears.
M.
If so, you can not trust it one hundred percent. What could be the
causes then?
C.
It could be mistake in the recording; deliberate change by
scribes; deletion and addition.
M.
If there are conflicting verses in the Bible, do you still
consider it holy?
C.
I don't believe that the Bible is not holy, since I don't see any
conflicting verses is it.
M.
There are many conflicting verses in it.
C.
In the old or New testaments?
M.
In both testaments. These are some of them:
II Samuel 8:4
And
David took from him a thousand chariots and seven hundred
horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen ……
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I Chronicles 18:4
And
David took from him a thousand chariots and seven
thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen …..
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Q.
Seven hundred or seven thousand?
II Samuel 8:9-10
When
Toi king of Hamath heard that David had smitten all the
host of Hadadezer, Then Toi sent
Joram his son unto kink David, to salute him,
and to bless him, because he had fought against Hadadezer,
and had smitten him; for Hadadezer had wars
with Toi And Joram with him vessels of
silver, and vessels of gold, and vessels of brass.
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I Chronicles 18:4
Now
when Tou king of Hamath heard how David had
smitten all the host of Hadarezer king of Zobah;
He sent Hadoram his son to king David, to
enquire of his welfare, and to congratulate him, because he
had fought against Hadarezer, and smitten him;
(for Hadarezer Had war with Tou;)
and with him all manner of vessels of gold and silver and
brass.
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Q.
Toi or Tou, Joram or Hadoram, Hadadezer or Hadarezer?
II Samuel 10:18
And
the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of
seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and
forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach
the captain of their host, who died there.
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I Chronicles 19:18
But
the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians
seven thousand which fought in chariots, and
forty thousand footmen and killed shophach
the captain of the host.
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Q. Seven hundred
chariots or seven thousand men? Forty thousand horsemen or
footmen? Shobach or Shophach?
II Kings 8:26
Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began
to reign:
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II Chronicles 22:2
Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began
to reign,
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Q.
Twenty-two or forty-two years?
II King
24:8
Jehoiachim was
eighteen years old when he began to
reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months.
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II Chronicles 36:9
Jehoiachim was eight years old
when he began to reigned, three month
and ten days in
Jerusalem.
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Q.
Eighteen years or eight years? Three months
or three months or three months and ten days?
II Samuel 23:8
The
be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The
Tachmonite that sat in the seat, chief among the
captains; the same was Adino
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I Chronicles 11:11
And
this is the number of the mighty men whom David had:
Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, The chief of
the captains; he lifted up his spearagainst three
hundred slain by him at one time
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Q.
Tachmonite or hachmonite? Eight hundred or
three hundred?
II Samuel 24:1
And
again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he
moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
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I Chronicles 21:1
And
Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number
Israel.
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Q.
Is the Lord of David then Satan? God
forbid!
II Samuel 6:23
Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child
until the day of her death.
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II Samuel 21:8
But
the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah,
whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephiboshet; and the
five sons of Michal the daughter of
Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzilai the
Meholathite.
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Q.
Did Michal have Children or not? Note: The
name Michal in II Samuel 21:8 is still present in the King James
version and the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures used
by the Jehovah’s Witnesses, but is changed to Merab in the New
American Standard Bible 1973.
C.
I never saw it before. Are there still many?
M.
Do you want to know more? Is this not
enough to deny its holiness? See Genesis 6:3: “And the Lord said,
My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also
is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty
years.”
But how old was
Noah when he died? More than a hundred and twenty years. See
Genesis 9:29: “And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and
fifty years when he died.” Some Christian theologians
maintain not that the maximum age of man will be a
hundred and twenty years but that the flood would come in a
hundred and twenty years. Even this doesn’t fit because at the
time of the flood Noah should have been six hundred and twenty
(500 + 120) years old, but the Bible states six hundred years.
Study these verses-Genesis 5:32: “And Noah was five hundred years
old…,” Genesis 7:6 : “And Noah was six hundred years old when the
flood of waters was upon the earth.”
Christianity believes that God created man in his image: white,
black or any else, male or female? This is according to Genesis
1:26: “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness…” But this contradicts Isaiah 40:18 and 25: “To whom then
will ye liken God? Or what likeness will ye compare unto him?… To
whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? Saith the Holy
One.” See also psalm 89:6: “For who in the heaven can be compared
unto the Lord? Who among the sons of the mighty can be likened
unto the Lord?” And Jeremiah 10:6,7: “Forasmuch as there is none
like unto thee, O Lord… there is none like unto thee.”
C.
But
all these are in the Old Testament.
M.
Let’s go to the New Testament now.
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John
5:37
Ye have
neither heard his [God’s] voice at any time, nor seen his
shape. |
John
14:9
… he that
hath seen me hath seen the Father …… |
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John
5:31
If I bear
witness of myself, my witness is not ture. |
John
8:14
Jesus
answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself,
yet my record is true. |
These are only some of the contradictions in New Testament. You
will find more if we discuss together the truth of the doctrines
of modern Christianity like the Trinity, Divinity of Jesus Christ,
Divine Sonship of Jesus, Original Sin and Atonement, not mention
the degrading of many Prophets in the Bible as worshipers of false
gods and accusing them of incest, rape and adultery.
C.
Where do you find that in the Bible?
M.
Noah is shown to have been drunk to the point of becoming naked in
the presence of his grown-up sons (Genesis 9:23-24): “And Sham and
Japhet took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and
went backward and covered the nakedness of their father; and their
faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had
done unto him.”
Solomon was accused not only of having harem but also of
worshiping their false gods (I Kings 11:9-10): “And the Lord was
angry with Solomon … And had commanded him concerning this thing,
that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which
the Load commanded.”
Aaron, as a Prophet who had accompanied his brother Moses to go to
pharaoh, was accused of having fashioned the golden calf for the
Israelites to worship (Exodus 32:4): “And he [Aaron] received them
[golden earrings] at their hand, and fashioned it with a graving
tool, after he had made it a golden calf: and they said, These be
thy gods, O Israel, which brought thee up out of the land of
Egypt.”
You will read
of the incest of prophet Lot with his two daughters (Genesis
19:36): “Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their
father.”
You will read
of a Prophet who was married to two sisters at the same time
(Genesis 29:28): “And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he
[Laban] gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.”
And another
Prophet accused of adultery (II Samuel 11:4-5): “And David sent
messengers, and took her [the wife of Uriah]; and she came in unto
him, and he lay with her; for she was purified from her
uncleanness; and she returned unto her house. And the woman
conceived, and sent and told David, and said, I am with child.”
My question is:
How could David then be accepted in the genealogy of Jesus when it
stared with a person who committed adultery? Allah forbid it! Is
this not in contradiction with what is mentioned in Deuteronomy
23:2: “A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the
Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the
congregation of the Lord.”
Another
allegation of incest along with rape by Ammon the son of David on
his half-sister Tamar (II Samuel 13:14): Howbeit he [Ammon] would
not hearken unto her voice: but being stonger than she [Tamar],
forced her, and lay with her.”
Still another
multiple rape, by Absalom on David’s concubines, was told in II
Samuel 16:33: “So they spread Absalom a tent upon the top of the
house, and Absalom went in unto his father’s concubines in the
sight of all Israel.” (I can’t believe that any body in the world
could do this, not even the barbarian.)
Another incest,
by Judah and Tamar his daughter-in-law: Judah on his way to
Timnath to shear his sheep saw Tamar; he thought her to be a
harlot because she had her face covered (Genesis 38:18):.. And he
[Judah] gave it [signet, bracelet and staff] her, and came in unto
her and she conceived by him.”
Although Jews
and Muslims are archenemies, no Muslim would dare to write a book
and stamp any Israelite Prophet like Judah, David, Jesus, act.
(Allah’s blessings and peace be upon all of them forever and ever)
with rape, adultery, incest or prostitution.
All Prophets
were sent by Allah for the guidance of mankind. Do you think that
God had sent the wrong people for guidance?
C.
I
don’t think so. But don’t you believe in the Bible?
M.
We believe in all Divine Scriptures, but in their original form.
God sent to each nation a Prophet as a Warner, and some of them
with a Scripture as a guidance for that particular nation only.
The Suhuf to Abraham, the Torah (Testament) to Moses, the Zabur
(Psalms) to David, and the Injeel (New Testament) to Jesus. None
of the these Scriptures remain in their original form now. As part
of Allah’s original plan, He finally sent Muhammad (peace be upon
him) as the Seal of all Prophets with the Holy Qur’an as a
guidance for all mankind, anywhere and anytime.
Jesus himself said that he was sent only to the people of Israel
(Matthew 15:24): “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the
house of Israel call his name Jesus; for he shall save his people
from their sins. “He even said that he came not to make changes
but to fulfill (Matthew 5:17-18): “Think not that I am come to
destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to
fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,
one jot or one tittles shall in no wise pass from the law, till
all be fulfilled.”
C.
But in Mark 16:15 Jesus said, “Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature.”
This contradicts what is mentioned above in Matthew 15:24 and
Matthew 1:21. Secondly, Mark 16:9-20 has been expunged in many
Bibles. The New American Standard Bible put this part in brackets
and wrote the following commentary: “Some of the oldest mss. Omit
form verse 9 through 20.” The New World Translation of the Holy
Scriptures used by the Jehovah’s Witnesses admits that certain
ancient manuscripts add a long conclusion or a short conclusion
after Mark 16:8 but some omit. And the Revised Standard Version
prints the following footnote: “Some of the most ancient
authorities bring the book to a close at the end of verse 8……
“This means also that the resurrection is not true as this is
described in Mark 16:9.
C.
But Jesus said in Matthew 28:19: “Go ye therefore, and teach all
nations….”
M.
“All nations” must be explained as the twelve tribes of Israel;
otherwise it contradicts Matthew 15:24 and Matthew 1:21. In the
new American Standard Bible and the New World Translation of Holy
Scriptures it is not translated as “all nations” but as “all the
nation,” which means the twelve tribes of Israel.
What do you think of the Bible now?
C.
My belief in it starts to shake now.
M.
I am sure you will be convinced of the authenticity of Islam after
we have discussed our differences.
The
Doctrine of the Trinity
M.
Do you still believe in the Trinity?
C.
Sure; it is written in the First Epistle of John (5:7 and 8): “For
there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,
and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three
that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the
blood: and these three agree in one.”
M.
Oh,
that is in the King James Version, authorized in 1611, and formed
the strongest evidence for the Doctrine of the Trinity. But now
this part, “the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these
three are one, “has been expunged in the Revised Standard Version
of 1952 and 1971 and in many other Bibles, as it was a gloss that
had encroached on the Greek text.
I John 5:7 and
8 in the New American Standard Bible reads as follows: “And it is
the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. For
there are three that bear witness, the Spirit and the water and
the blood, and the three are in agreement.” Also, in the New world
Translation of the Holy Scriptures used by the Jehovah’s
Witnesses, you will find: “For there are three witness bearers,
the Spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in
agreement.” I can understand if you don’t know that this important
part has been removed, but I wonder why many ministers and
preachers are not aware of this.
The Trinity is not Biblical. The word Trinity is not even in the
Bible or Bible dictionaries, was never taught by Jesus and was
never mentioned by him. There is no basis or proof in the Bible
whatsoever to the acceptance of the Trinity.
C.
But in Matthew 28:19 we still find: “…… baptizing them in the name
of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.” This part
is not removed yet; is this not a proof of the Trinity?
M.
No.
If you mention three persons are sitting or eating together, does
it mean that they are forming one person? No. The formulation of
the Trinity by Athanasius, an Egyptian deacon from Alexandria, was
accepted by the Council of Nicaea in A.D. 325, i.e. more than
three centuries after Jesus had left. No doubt Roman paganism had
influence in this doctrine, the triune god; Sabbath was shifted to
Sunday; December 25, which was the birthday of their sun-god
Mithra, was introduced as Jesus’ birthday, although the Bible
clearly predicted and forbade the decoration of Christmas trees in
Jeremiah 10:2-5: “Thus saith the Lord, learn not the way of the
heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the
heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are
vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the
hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and
with gold, they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that move
not. They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must
needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for
they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.”
Because
Christianity had deviated a long way from the original teachings
of Jesus, Allah then sent as part of His original plan His last
Prophet, Muhammad, as revivalist to restore all these changes: the
Roman Julian calendar introduced as the Christian era; pork not
prohibited; circumcision abolished by paul (Galatians 5:2):
“Behold, I paul say unto you that it ye be circumcised, Christ
shall profit you nothing.”
The Holy Qur’an warns in Surah 5:73: Surely they are
disbeliever’s, those who said: ‘Allah is one of the three in a
Trinity.’ But there is none who has the right to be worshiped but
one God (i.e. Allah). And if they cease not from what they say,
verily a painful torment will befall the disbeliever’s among
them.”
Do you still believe in the Trinity which was never taught by
Jesus?
C.
But God and Jesus are one (John 14:11): “Believe me that I am in
the Father, and the Father in me.”
M.
Read then John 17:21.
C.
“That they [the disciples] all may be one; as thou, Father, art in
me, and I in thee, that they may also be one in us …..”
M.
It is clear here that God and Jesus are one, but also that the
disciples are one in Jesus and God. If Jesus is God because he is
in God, why are the disciples then not God, as they all are like
Jesus also in God? If God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost form one unit
of Trinity, then with the disciples included they should form a
God unit of fifteen.
C.
But Jesus is God according to John 14:9: “… he that hath seen me
hath seen the Father.”
M.
See to the context now
what is before and after this: (John 14:8): “Philip saith unto
him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.” (John 14:9):
“Jesus saith unto him, have I been so long time with you, and yet
hast thou not know me, Philip? he that hath seen me hast seen the
Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?”
So finally Jesus asked Philip how to show the appearance of God to
the disciples, which is not possible. You should believe in God by
admiring his creation: the sun, the moon, all creation, and Jesus
himself who was created by God. He said (John 4:24): “God is a
Spirit …….” And (John 5:37): “… ye have neither heard his voice at
any time, nor seen his shape.” How can you see a spirit then? What
they saw was Jesus and not God. Also Paul said (I Timothy 6:16): “
… whom no man that hath seen, nor can see…” So what you can see is
never God.
Our Holy Qur’an says (Surah 6:103): “Vision comprehendeth Him not,
but He comprehendeth (all) vision. He is the Subtile, the Aware.”
C.
To be honest, it is difficult to deny what has been taught to us
since childhood.
M.
Maybe the following questions will give you a better understanding
of the Trinity: What is the Holy Spirit?
C.
The Holy Spirit is the Holy Ghost, is also God. We are taught, the
Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Ghost is God. We are not
allowed to say Three Gods, but One God.
M.
Read Matthew 1:18.
C.
“Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his
mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she
was found with child of the Holy Ghost.”
M.
Compare now with Luke 1:26 and 27.
C.
“And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a
city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man
whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s
name was Mary.”
M.
So in the miraculous birth of Jesus, Matthew mentioned the Holy
Ghost and Luke mentioned the angel Gabriel. What is the Holy Ghost
then?
C.
The Holy Ghost is then the angel Gabriel.
M.
Do you still believe in the Trinity now?
C.
Then God is God, the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit is the angel
Gabriel, and Jesus is ….
M.
Let me help you: Jesus is a Prophet, son of Mary.
C.
How can you solve what we call a mystery?
M.
We use the Holy Qur’an the standard to correct changes made by men
in the previously revealed scriptures, If you can now believe in
One God, and Jesus, son of Mary, as a Prophet, why don’t you go
one step further and accept Muhammad as the Last Messenger? Read
with me she shahadah or Witness (Testimony), first in English,
then in Arabic.
C.
I bear witness that there is no deity except Allah, Who has no
partner, and Muhammad is His shave servant and messenger. Ash-hadu
an-al Ilaha illal-Lahu wahdahu la shareekalahu wa ash-hadu anna
Muhammadan abduhu wa rasuluhu.
But what about my great-grandparents? I would like to stay with
them; they were all Christians.
M.
Abraham had left his parents and great-grandparents when the
Truth, i.e. Islam, was revealed to him. Everyone is responsible
for himself. Maybe the Truth hadn’t come to your ancestors as
clearly as it comes to you now. The Holy Qur’an says in Surah
17:15: “Whoever goes right, then, he goes right only for his own
soul’s benefit. And whoever goes astray, then he goes astray only
to his own loss. No laden soul can bear another’s load. And we
never punish until we have sent an apostle (to give warnings).”
So the Truth has come to you now and it is up to you.
C.
Is it not possible to accept both Islam and Christianity?
M.
There is no compulsion in religion. You can do whatever you want.
But if you combine both faiths, you haven’t surrendered to Allah
yet. You are still a disbeliever, as He states in Surah 4:150-152:
“Verily those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish
to make distinction between Allah and His messengers [by believing
in Allah and disbelieving in His messengers] saying ‘We believe in
some and reject others,’ and wish to take a way in between [this
and] that: They are disbelievers in truth. And We have prepared
for disbelievers a humiliating torment. To those who believe in
Allah and His messengers and make no distinction between any of
them [messengers], We shall give them their rewards, and Allah is
ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
You may later agree with me if we discuss further.
C.
Is it not better that we do not make any Confession or Shahadah,
so that we are not committed?
M.
As soon as you reach adulthood and you are mentally competent, you
are then committed whether you make the Shahadah or not. Allah
created this world not for nothing. He has supplied you with the
organs to differentiate between right and wrong. He has sent many
Prophets as warners. We are created to worship Him and that we may
compete with each other in good deeds in this world.
Surah 3:191: “… Our Lord! You have not created [all] this without
purpose, Glory to You! ….”
Surah 90:8-10: “Have We not made for him [manking] a pair of eyes?
And a tongue and a pair of lips? And Shown him the two ways [good
and evil]?”
Surah 51:56: “And I created not the Jinns and manking except they
should worship Me [alone].” Every deed for the pleasure of Allah
is worship.
Surah 18:7: “Verily! We have made that which is on earth as an
adoration for it [the earth] in order that We have made that which
is on earth as an adoration for it [the earth] in order that We
may test them [mankind] as to which of them is better in deeds.”
THE
DOCTRINE OF THE DIVINITY OF JESUS CHRIST
M.
Is Jesus God?
C.
Yes, In the Gospel according to John (1:1): “In the beginning was
the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
M.
We have agreed that a Holy Scripture should not contain
contradictions. If there are two conflicting verses, then only one
can be true; both can never be true or both are wrong.
Jesus is then God according to John 1:1 Then how many Gods are
there? Two at least. This then is in contradiction with many
passages in the Bible: (Deuteronomy 4:39): “ … that the Lord he is
God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none
else”; (Deuteronomy 6:4): “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one
Lord”; (Isaiah 43:10-11): “… that ye may know and believe me, and
understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed,
neither shall there be after me. I, am the Lord; and beside me
there is no saviour”; (Isaiah 44:6): “Thus saith the Lord …… I am
the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God”;
(Isaiah 45:18): “For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens;
God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established
it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am
the Load; and there is none else.”
From Isaiah 45:18 alone we can conclude that god alone was the
creator and no one else, not even Jesus, participated in the
creation.
See further: Deuteronomy 4:35; Exodus 8:10; II Samuel 7:22; I
Kings 8:23; I Chronicles 17:20; Psalms 86:8, 89:6 and 113:5; Hosea
13:4; Zechariah 14:9.
C.
But these are all in the Old Testament. Do you find it in the New
Testament?
M.
Sure. Read in Mark 12:29 what Jesus himself said: “And Jesus
answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O
Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.”
(I Corinthians 8:4): “ … we know that an idol is nothing in the
word, and that there is none other God but one.” (I Timothy 2:5):
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the
man Christ Jesus.” Look to the expression “the man Christ Jesus.”
Now you can either say that John 1:1 is right and all these other
verses are wrong, or the reverse.
C.
Difficult to judge!
M.
Let us see it from the Qur’anic point of view and this corresponds
with what Jesus himself said in the Bible. Jesus is mentioned
several times in the Qur’an as a Word from Allah. In Surh 3:39:
“Then the angels called to him [Zechariah] while he was standing
in prayer in the chamber (saying): Allah gives you glad tidings of
John [i.e. the Baptist] believing in a Word from Allah [i.e
Jesus, son of Mary], noble, keeping away from sexual relations
with women, a prophet, and one of the righteous.”
In the same Surah 3, again mentioned in verse 45: “[Remember] when
the angels said: “O Mary! Verily Allah gives you the glad tidings
of a World from Him, his name will be Messiah Jesus, the son of
Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter, and of those
who are to Allah.” In both verses of the Holy Qur’an Jesus is also
called a Word from Allah, i.e. a Word coming from Allah or
belonging to Allah, in correspondence with I Corinthians 3:23:
“And ye are Christ’s and Christ is God’s.” John 1:1 should also
have been written: “… and the Word was God’s.” The mistake could
have been in the translation from Aramaic to Greek, deliberately
or not. In the Greek language Theos is God, but Theou means God’s
(see Greek dictionary, Greek Bible, or Muhammad in the Bible
by Prof. Abdu L-Ahad Dawud, former Bishop of Uramiah, page
16). A difference of only one letter but big consequences.
C.
Why is Jesus called the Word of God in both Scriptures?
M.
The creation of Jesus in the womb of Mary was without the agency
of a sperm, just only with the decree of Allah: “Be,” as mentioned
in the same Surah 3:47: “She [Mary] said; ‘O, my Lord! How shall I
have a son when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So [it will be],
for Allah creates what He will. When He has decreed something, He
says to it only “Be” and it is.’’’
C.
Jesus is God because he is filled with the Holy Spirit.
M.
Why don’t you consider other people divine who are also filled
with the Holy Ghost? (Acts 11:24): “For he [Barnabas] was a good
man, and full of the Holy Ghost and of faith; and much people was
added unto the Lord.” (Acts 5:32): “And we are his witnesses of
these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given
to them that obey him.”
See further Acts 6:5; II Peter 1:21; II Timothy 1:14; I
Corinthians 2:16; Luke 1:41.
C.
But Jesus was filled with the Holy Ghost while he was still in his
mother’s womb.
M.
The same was true with John the Baptist (Luke 1:13, 15): “But the
angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard;
and thy wife Elizabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call
his name John. For he shall be great in the sight of the lord, and
he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother’s
womb.”
C.
But Jesus could do miracles. He fed five thousand people with only
five loaves and two fishes.
M.
The same was done by Elisha and Elijah. Elisha fed a hundred
people with twenty barley loaves and a few ears of corn (II Kings
4:44): “So he set it before them, and they did eat, and left there
of, according to the word of the Lord.” Elisha secured the
increase of a window’s oil and he said to her (II Kings 4:7): “Go,
sell the oil, and pay thy debt, and live thou and thy children of
the rest.” See also I Kings 17:16: “And the barrel of meal wasted
not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of
the Lord, which he spake by Elijah.” Also I Kings 17:6: “And the
ravens brought him [Elijah] bread and flesh in the morning, bread
and flesh in the evening; and he drank of the brook.”
C.
But Jesus could heal leprosy.
M.
Also Elisha told Naaman who was a leper to wash in the Jordan
river (II Kings 5:14): “Then went he [Naaman] down, and dipped
himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man
of God [Elisha]: and his flesh came again like unto a flesh of a
little child, and he was clean.”
C.
But Jesus could cause a blind man to see again.
M.
Also Elisha did (II Kings 6:17): “And Elisha prayed, and said,
Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord
opened the eyes of the young man: and he saw …” (II Kings 6:20):
And it came to pass, when they were come into Samaria, that Elisha
said, Lord open the eyes of these men, that they may see. And the
Lord opened their eyes, and they saw, and behold, they were in the
midst of Samaria.”
Elisha was also told to cause blindness (II Kings 6:18): “And when
they came down down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said,
Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them
with blindness according to the word of Elisha.”
C.
Jesus, could raise the dead.
M.
Compare with Elijah (I Kings 17:22): “And the Lord heard the voice
of Elijah: and the soul of the child came into him again,
and he revived.” Compare also with Elisha (11 Kings 4:34): “ And
he (Elisha) went up, and lay upon the child, and put his mouth
upon his mouth, and his eyes upon his eyes, and his hands upon his
hands; and he stretched himself upon the child; and the flesh of
the child waxed warm.”
Even the dead
bones of Elisha could restore a dead body to life by
touching only (11 Kings 13:21): “And it came to pass,
as they were burying a man, that, behold, they spied a band of
men; and they cast the man into the sepulchre of Elisha: and when
the man was let down, and touched the bones of Elisha, he revived,
and stoop up on his feet.”
C.
But Jesus walked upon the water.
M.
Moses stretched out his arms over the sea (Exodus 14:22): “And the
children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry
ground; and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand,
and on their left.”
C.
But Jesus could cast out devils.
M.
Jesus himself admitted that other people could do it (Matthew
12:27 and Luke 11:19): “And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by
whom do your children cast them out? Therefore shall they be your
judges.”
Also the disciples could cast out devils as Jesus said (Matthew
7:22): “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not
prophesied in thy name and in thy name have cast out devils? And
in thy name done many wonderful works?
Even false prophets would do wonders, as prophesied by Jesus
himself (Matthew 24:24): “For there shall arise false Christs, and
false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch
that, if were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
C.
But Elijah and Elisha did wonders through praying to the Lord.
M.
Jesus also did the miracles with the grace of God, as he himself
said (John 5:30): “I can of mine own self do nothing …” and (Luke
11:20): “But if with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt
the Kingdom of God is come upon you.”
All miracles performed by Jesus had been done by previous
prophets, disciples, and even unbelievers. On the other hand,
Jesus could do no mighty work where there was unbelief (Mark
6:5,6): “And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid
his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them. And he marvelled
because of their unbelief. And I went around about the villages,
teaching.”
C.
But Jesus was resurrected three days after he died.
M.
We will talk later about his crucifixion because there are so many
controversies about it. I’ll only say now briefly that it was a
gospel of Paul, who never saw Jesus alive (II Timothy 2:8):
“Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from
the dead according to my gospel.”
The gospel of resurrection in Mark 16:9-20 has also been removed
in many Bibles. If not removed it is printed in small print or
between two brackets and with commentary. See Revised Standard
Version, New American Standard Bible and New World Translation of
the Holy Scriptures of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Let me ask you one
thing: did Jesus ever claim to be God or to say, “Here am I, your
God, and worship me”?
C.
No, but he is God and man.
M.
But did he ever claim that?
C.
No.
M.
Indeed he had prophesied that people will worship him uselessly
and will believe in doctrines not made by God but by men (Matthew
15:9): “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the
commandments of men.”
All doctrines of modern Christianity are made by men: the Trinity,
Divine Sonship of Jesus, Divinity of Jesus Christ, Original Sin
and Atonement. From Jesus own sayings, recorded in the new
Testament, it is clear that he never claimed divinity or identity
to God: “I do nothing of myself”(John 8:28); “My Father is greater
than I” (John 14:28); “The Lord our God is one Lord” (Mark 12:29);
“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Mark 15:34);
“Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit” (Luke 23:46).
“But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels
which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father” (Mark
13:32). Jesus was called prophet, teacher from God, His servant,
Messiah, and later was escalated to Son of God and then God
Himself.
Let us now use our reason: how ca God be born by a mortal one as
any other mortal?
Jesus slept while God never sleeps (Psalm 121:4): “Behold, he that
kept Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.” God should be
powerful but how could people spit on him, crucify him as alleged.
How could Jesus be God if he worshiped God as any other mortal
(Luke 5:16): “And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and
prayed.”
Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days (Luke 4:1-13) but in
James 1:13 is said: “….. for God cannot be tempted with evil ………”
How can Jesus be God, then? We can rationalize further and
further.
C.
Yes, I myself can’t understand it but we have to accept it
blindly.
M.
Is it not contradicting the Bible itself which says that you to
prove it (I Thessalonians 5:21): “Prove all things; hold fast that
which is good.”
C.
It’s really confusing.
M.
But I Corinthians 14:33 says: “For God is not the author of
confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
Doctrines made by men create confusion.
THE DOCTRINE
OF THE DIVINE SONSHIP OF JESUS
M.
Is Jesus Son of God
C.
Yes. Read in Matthew 3:17, when Jesus was baptized by John. “And
lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I
am well pleased.”
M.
You should not accept the word Son literally, many Prophets and we
people are called in the Bible also, sons and children of God.
Read Exodus 4:22.
C.
“And thou [Moses] shalt say unto Pharaoh, thus saith the Lord,
Israel is my son, even my firstborn.”
M.
Here is Jacob (Israel) His firstborn son. Read now II Samuel
17:13-14 or I Chronicles 22:10.
C.
“He [Solomon] shall build a house for my name, and I will
establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father
and he shall be my son …”
M.
It will be confusing if you read Jeremiah 31:9: “I am a father to
Israel and Ephraim is my firstborn..” In Exodus 4:22 just now,
Israel was called firstborn, too Who is now the real firstborn?
Common people can be children of God; read Deuteronomy 14:1.
C.
“Ye are the children of the Lord your God.”
M.
Common people can also be called firstborn; read Romans 8:29.
C.
“For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be
conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn
of many brethren.”
M.
If all are firstborn, what is Jesus then?
C.
He is the only begotten Son of God.
M.
Long before Jesus was born, God said to David (Psalm 2.7): “I will
declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me [David], Thou art
my Son; this day have I begotten thee.” So David is also God’s
begotten Son. The meaning of Son of God is not literal but
metaphorical. It can be any one who is beloved by God. Jesus also
said that God is not only his Father but also your Father (Matthew
5:45,48).
C.
“That ye may be the children of your Father”; and Be ye therefore
perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”
M.
So you will see in many passages in the Bible “Son of God” which
signifies love and affection, nearness to God, not applied to
Jesus alone. You will see sons and daughters of God (II
Corinthians 6:18): “And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be
my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” In view of these
and other passages in the Bible, there is no reason whatsoever why
Jesus should be regarded as Son of God in a literal or unique
sense.
C.
But he has no father, that is why he is Son of God.
M.
Why do you consider Adam then not as Son of God. He lacked both
father and mother, and is also called Son of God in luke 3:38: “….
Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.” Read
Hebrews 7:3.
C.
“Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither
beginning of day, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of
God; abideth a priest continually.”
M.
Who is he? The answer is in Hebrews 7:1: “Melchisedec, king of
Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham …” He is more
unique than Jesus or Adam. Why is he not preferred to be son of
God or God himself?
C.
What do you call Jesus then?
M.
We Muslims call him Jesus the son of Mary.
C.
No one will deny this.
M.
Yes, it is simple and nobody can deny it. Jesus called himself Son
of man and refused to be called Son of God. Read Luke 4:41.
C.
“And devils also came out came out of many, crying out, and
saying, thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them
suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.”
M.
It is clear here that he refused to be called Son of God. He
refused again in Luke 9:20 and 21, andcharged them too.
C.
“He [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], But whom say ye that I
am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. And he straightly
charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing.”
M.
Jesus who the expected Messiah, a Prophet, was escalated from
teacher to Son of God, Lord, and finally God Himself. Read John
3:2: “The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi,
we kncw that thou art a teacher come from God …”, (John 6:14):
“Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did,
said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the
world.” Jesus is also called prophet in John 7:40, Matthew 21:11,
Luke 7:16 and 24:19. (Acts 9:20): “And straightway he [Paul]
preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.”
(You can conclude from here also that early Christians were still
using synagogues, but later when Christianity deviated from the
original teaching of teaching teaching of Jesus, churches were
established. Paul, Barnabas and the gentiles were expelled from
the synagogues, as they were accused of blasphemy and pollution.
See Acts 13:50, 17:18 and 21:28.) Luke 2:11: “For unto you is born
this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the
Lord.” John 1:1: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God.”
WAS JESUS
CRUCIFIED?
M.
The Holy Qur’an states in Surah 4:157 that Jesus was not
crucified. “And their [Jews’] boasting: ‘We killed Messiah Jesus,
son of Mary, the apostle of Allah,’ but they [Jews] killed him
not, nor crucified him ..” Do you still believe that he died on
the cross?
C.
Yes, he died and was then resurrected.
M.
We all agree that nobody saw the moment he was resurrected. They
found the sepulchre where Jesus was laid down, empty and made the
conclusion that he was resurrected because the disciples and other
witness saw him alive after the alleged crucifixion. Could it not
be possible, as the Qur’an claims, that he didn’t die on the
cross?
C.
Where is the proof then?
M.
Let us see passages in the Bible supporting this evidence. Do you
give more weight to what Jesus said or to hearsay of the
disciples, apostles and other witnesses?
C.
Of course more to Jesus himself.
M.
That is in accordance with what Jesus said (Matthew 10:24): “The
disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his
lord.”
C.
But Jesus himself said that he will rise from the dead (Luke
24:46): “And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it
behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise form the third day.”
M.
Suffering is often exaggerated in the Bible and termed “dead” as
Paul said (I Corinthians 15:31): “I protest by your rejoicing
which I have in Christ, I die daily” (i.e. I suffer daily).
Here are some of the proofs:
1. On the cross he beseeched God for help
(Matthew 27:46): “My God, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken
me?” And in Luke 22:42: “Saying Father if thou be willing, remove
this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.”
(This cup is the cup of death.)
2.
Jesus’ prayer not to die on the cross was accepted by God,
according to Luke, Hebrews and James. Then how could he still die
on the cross? (Luke 22:43): “And there appeared an angel unto him
from heaven, strengthening him.” It means that an angel assured
him that God would not leave him helpless. (Hebrews 5:7): “Who in
the days of his flesh, when he [Jesus] had offered up prayer and
supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able
to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared.”
Jesus’ prayer
were here heard, which means answered in a positive way by God.
(James 5:16): “… The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man
availeth mush.” Jesus himself said (Matthew 7:7-10): “Ask, and it
shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall
be opened unto you; For every one that asketh receiveth; and he
that seeketh findeth, and to him who knocketh it shall be opened.
Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he
give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a
serpent?” If all Jesus’ prayers were accepted by God, including
not to die on the cross, how could he still die the cross then?
3.
His legs were not broken by the Roman soldiers (John 19:32-33):
“Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of
the other which was crucified with him. But when they came to
Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs.”
Can you rely on these soldiers for pronouncing the death, or did
they want to save Jesus as they found him innocent?
4.
If Jesus died on the cross, his blood would clot and no blood
would gush out of his body when his side was pierced. But the
Gospel states that blood and water came out; (John 19:34): “But
one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith
came there out blood and water.”
5.
When the Pharisees asked Jesus for a sign of his true mission he
answered (Matthew 12:40): “For as Jonas was three days and three
nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man be three days
and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Disregard now the
time factor, which was also not three days and three nights but
one day (Saturday, daytime only) and two nights (Friday night and
Saturday night). Was Jonas alive in the belly of whale?
C.
Yes.
M.
Was Jonas still alive when he was vomited out of the belly of the
whale?
C.
Yes.
M.
Then Jesus was still alive as he prophesied.
6.
Jesus
himself stated that he didn’t die on the cross. Early Sunday
morning Mary Magdalene went to the sepulchre, which was empty. She
saw somebody standing who looked like a gardener. She recognized
him after conversation to be Jesus and wanted to touch him. Jesus
said (John 20:17): “Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my
Father …” “Touch me not,” perhaps because the fresh wound would
hurt him. “I am not yet ascended to my Father,” means that he was
still alive, not dead yet, because if somebody dies, then he goes
back to the Creator. This was the strongest proof admitted by
Jesus himself.
7.
After the alleged crucifixion the disciples thought that he was
not the same Jesus in body but spiritualized, because resurrected
bodies are spiritualized.
C.
Interruption. How could you be sure that resurrected bodies are
spiritualized?
M.
That is what Jesus himself said in the Bible: that they are equal
to angels.
C.
Where in the Bible
M.
In Luke 20:34-36: “And answering said unto them, The children of
the world marry, and are given in marriage. But they which shall
be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and then resurrection
from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither
can they die any more for they are equal unto the angels; and are
the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.”
Then Jesus convinced them by letting them touch his hands and
feet, that he was the same person. As they could not believe him
yet, he asked for meat to show them that he still ate like any
living individual. Read Luke 24:36-41: “And as they [the
disciples] thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them,
and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified
and frightened, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he
said unto them, Why are ye troubled? And why do thoughts arise in
your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself:
handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye
see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands
and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and
wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave
him a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it,
and did eat before them.”
8.
If
you still believe that he died on the cross, then he was a false
Prophet and accursed of God according to these passages:
(Deuteronomy 13:5): “And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams,
shall be put to death …” (Deuteronomy 21:22-23): “And if a man
have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to
death, and thou hang him on a tree: His body shall not remain all
night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day;
(for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) That thy land be not
defiled, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.”
To believe in
his death on the cross is to discredit his prophethood. The Jews
maintained to have killed Jesus on the cross and consequently
portrayed him to be false in his claim to prophethood Christians
believe in the crucifixion necessary for their redemption of sin
and consequently have to accursedness of Jesus, too. This
Christian belief opposes the Bible’s teaching in Hosea 6:6: “For I
desired mercy and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more
than burnt-offerings.” It also opposes Jesus’ own teaching
(Matthew 9:13): “But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will
have mercy, and not sacrifice …” Again Jesus said (Matthew 12:7):
“But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not
sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.”
C.
Why do people believe in the resurrection then?
M.
It was Paul who taught the resurrection (Acts 17:18): “ ….. And
some [Jews] said, What will this babbler say? Other some, He
[Paul] seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he
preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.” Paul, who never
saw Jesus, also admitted that the resurrection was his gospel (II
Timothy 2:8): “Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was
raised from the dead according to my gospel.” He was also the
first who declared Jesus as Son of God (Acts 9:20): “And
straightway he [Paul] preached Christ in the synagogues, that he
is the Son of God.”
So Christianity is not a teaching of Jesus but of Paul.
C.
But Mark (16:19) mentioned that Jesus was raised up to heaven and
sat on the right hand of God: “So then after the Lord had spoken
unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right
hand of God.”
M.
As I told you under discussion of the Holy Bible that Mark 16,
verses 9-20, were expunged in certain Bibles. See remark in the
Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible and the
new World Translation of the Holy scriptures of the Jehovah’s
Witnesses Church. If you still believe that Jesus is divine
because he was raised up to heaven, why don’t you accept other
Prophets as divine who were also raised up to heaven?
C.
Who were they?
M.
Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. And Elisha saw it, and
he cried .. And he saw him no more ..” Also Enoch was taken by God
to heaven (Genesis 5:24): “And Enoch walked with God; and he was
not; for God took him.” This was also repeated in Hebrews 11:5:
“By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and
not found, because God translated him; for before his translation
he had this testimony, that he pleased God.”
THE DOCTRINE
OF ATONEMENT AND ORIGINAL SIN
C.
So redemption of sin through the crucifixion is not Jesus’
teaching?
M.
This is the Doctrine of Atonement accepted by the Church three to
four centuries after Jesus left the earth. It contradicts the
Bible itself as the following passages show: (Deuteronomy 24:16):
“The fathers shall not be put death for the children, neither
shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man
shall be put to death for his own sin.” (Jeremiah 31:30): “But
every one shall die for his own iniquity …” (Ezekiel 18:20): “The
soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the
iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity
of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him,
and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.” So Adam and
Eve were responsible for own sin, which had also been forgiven by
Allah according to the Islamic version.
C.
But these are in the Old Testament.
M.
Read what Jesus himself said in Matthew 7:1 and 2.
C.
“Judge not, that ye be not Judged. For with what judgment ye
judge, ye shall be measured to you again.”
M.
Read I Corinthians 3:8.
C.
“Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one; and every man
shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.” But we
believe in Original Sin!
M.
Do you still want me to prove that children are born without sin?
Read Matthew 19:14.
C.
“But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to
come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.”
M.
So everybody is born without sin and all children belong to the
kingdom of heaven. Do you know that it was Paul who abolished the
Mosaic law? Read Acts 13:39.
C.
“And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from
which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.”
M.
Let me ask a question. Why do you believe in the resurrection if
Paul himself, who never saw Jesus alive, admitted that this was
his gospel.?
C.
Where is it written?
M.
Read II Timothy 2:8.
C.
“Remember that Christ of the seed of David was raised from the
dead according to my gospel.” But why have we to believe that he
was crucified and raised from the dead?
M.
Yes, I do know even. Islam is based on reason and is a pure
teaching of all Prophets of Allah not contaminated with paganism
and superstition.
C.
That is what I am looking for.
M.
Why don’t you consider the Shahadah (Witness) or Testimony, first
in English, then in Arabic. Let me help you pronounce it.
C.
I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah who has no partner
and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave servant and
messenger, Ashhadu an la Ilaha illal-Lahu wahdahu la shareeka
lahu, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan abduhu wa rasuluhu. Has Prophet
Muhammad [PBUH] then been prophesied in the Bible?
M.
Yes, but it is not necessary for a Muslim to know it from the
Bible. As you have studied the Bible I would like to discuss it
with you briefly next time.
N.B:
The rest of the discussion will be conducted between two Muslims:
M and m.
MUHAMMAD IN
THE BIBLE
M.
Why did Ishmael and his mother Hagar leave Sarah?
m.
After Isaac was weaned, his mother Sarah saw Ishmael mocking him,
and didn’t want Ishmael to be heir with her son Isaac (Genesis
21:8-10): “And the child grew, and was weaned: and Abraham made a
great feast the same day that Isaac was weaned. And surah saw the
son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham,
mocking. Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman
and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with
my son, even with Isaac.”
M.
Isaac was about two years old when he was weaned. Ishmael was then
sixteen years because Abraham was eighty-six years old when Hagar
bore Ishmael and was a hundred years old when Isaac was born,
according to Genesis 16:16: “And Abram was fourscore and six years
old, when Hagar bare Ishmael to Abram,” and Genesis 21:5: “And
Abraham was an hundred years old, when his son Isaac was born unto
him.” Genesis 21:8-10 is then in contradiction with Genesis
21:14-21 where Ishmael was portrayed as a baby put on the
shoulder of his mother, called lad and child, when both left
Sarah: “And Abraham rose up early in the mornig, and took bread.
And a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her
shoulder, and the child, … Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in
thine hand …” This was the profile of a baby and not of a
teenager. So Ishmael and his mother Hagar left Sarah long before
Isaac was born. According to the Islamic version, Abraham took
Ishmael and Hagar and made a new settlement in Mecca, called Paran
in the Bible (Genesis 21:21), because of a divine instruction
given to Abraham as a part of God’s plan. Hagar ran seven times
between two hills, sofa and Marwa, looking for water; this became
then an Islamic ritual for the annual Pilgrimage in Mecca by
millions of Muslims from all over the world. The well of water
mentioned in Genesis 21:19 is still present, now called Zamzam.
Both Abraham and Ishmael later built the holy stone Ka’bah in
Mecca. The spot where Abraham used to perform prayers near the
Ka’bah is still present, now called Maqom Ibrahim, i.e. the
Station of Abraham. During the days of Pilgrimage, Pilgrims in
Mecca and Muslims all over the world commemorate the offering of
Abraham and Ishael by slaughtering cattle.
m.
But the Bible mentions Isaac to be sacrificed.
M.
No, the Islamic version states that the covenant between God,
Abraham and his only son Ishmael was made and sealed when Ishmael
was supposed to be sacrificed. And on the same day were Abraham,
Ishmael and all men of the household circumcised while Isaac was
not even born yet (Genesis 17:24-27: “And Abraham was ninety years
old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his
foreskin. And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was
circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. In the selfsame day was
Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son. And all the men of his
house, born in the house, and bought with money of the stranger,
were circumcised with him.”)
A year later Isaac was born and circumcised when he was eight days
old (Genesis 21:4-5): “And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being
eight days old, when his son Isaac was born unto him.”
So when the covenant was made and sealed (circumcision and
sacrifice) Abraham was ninety-nine and Ishmael thirteen years old.
Isaac was born a year later when Abraham was a hundred years old.
The descendants of Ishmael, Prophet Muhammad [PBUT], including all
Muslims, remain faithful until today to this covenant of
circumcision. In their prayers at least five times a day the
Muslims include the praise of Abraham and his descendants with the
praise of Muhammad [PBUH] and his descendants.
m.
But in Genesis 22 it is mentioned that Isaac was to be was to be
sacrificed!
M.
I know it, but you will see the contradiction there. It is
mentioned there “thine only son Isaac.” Should it not have been
written “thine only son Ishmael” when Ishmael was thirteen years
old and Isaac not born yet? When Isaac was born Abraham had two
sons. Because of chauvinism the name Ishmael was changed to Isaac
in all of Genesis 22, but God had preserved the word “only” to
show us what it should have been.
The words “I will multiply thy seed” in Genesis 22:17 was applied
earlier to Ishmael in Genesis 16:10 Was the whole of Genesis 22
not applicable to Ishmael then? “I will make him a great nation”
had been repeated twice for Ishmael in Genesis 17:20 and Genesis
21:18, and never applied to Isaac at all.
m.
The Jews and Christians maintain that Isaac was superior to
Ishamel.
M.
That is what thy say but not what the Bible states (Genesis 15:4):
“And, behold, the word of the Lord came unto him [Abraham],
saying. This [Eliezer of Damascus] shall not be thine heir, but he
that shall come forth our of thine own bowels shall be thine
heir.” So Ishmael was also heir.
Genesis 16:10: “And the angel of the Lord said unto her [Hagar], I
will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered
for multitude.”
Genesis 17:20: “And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I
have blessed him, and will multiply exceedingly: twelve princes
shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.”
Genesis 21:13: “And also of the son of the bond woman will I make
a nation, because he is thy seed.”
Genesis 21:18: “Arise, lift up the lad [Ishmael], and hold him in
thine hand for I will make him a great nation.”
Deuteronomy 21:15-17: “If a man have two wives, one beloved, and
another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved
and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:
Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he
hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before
the son of the hated, which his indeed the firstborn: But he shall
acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him
a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of
the strength; the right of the firstborn is his.” Islam does not
deny God’s blessings on Isaac and his descendants, but the son of
promise is Ishmael from whom later arose Muhammad [PBUH] as Seal
of all Prophets.
But Christians and Jews claim that Ishmael was an illegitimate
son.
M.
That is what they say, but not what the Bible states. How could a
great Prophet like Abraham have an illegal wife and a son out of
wedlock!
Genesis 16:3: “ … and [Sarah] gave her [Hagar] to her husband
Abram to be his wife.” If the marriage was legal, how could their
offspring be illegal then! Is a marriage between two foreigners, a
Chaldean and an Egyptian, not more legal than a marriage between a
man with a daughter of his father? Whether it was a lie of Abraham
or not, it is stated in Genesis 20:12: “And yet indeed she [Sarah]
is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but, not the
daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.” The name Ishmael
was also chosen by Allah Himself (Genesis 16:11): “And the Angel
of the Lord said unto her [Hagar], Behold, thou art with child,
and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael, because the
Lord hath heard thy affliction.” Ishmael means God Hears. And
where in the Bible is it written that Ishmael was an illegitimate
son?
m.
Nowhere in the Bible.
M.
Long before both Ishmael and Isaac were born, Allah made a
covenant with Abraham (Genesis 15:18): “ … saying Unto thy seed
have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great
river, the Euphrates.” Was not the greater part of Arabia lying
between the Nile and the Euphrates, where later all the
descendants of Ishmael were settling?
m.
Do you mean that no land was promised to Isaac and his
descendants?
M.
We Muslims never deny that Isaac was also blessed. See Genesis
17:8: “And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed [Isaac] after
thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land Canaan,
for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
Do you see also the difference that Abraham was mentioned “a
stranger” in Canaan but not in the land between the Nile and the
Euphrates. As a Chaldean he was more an Arab than a Jew.
m.
But the Covenant was made with Isaac according to Genesis 17:21:
“But my covenant will covenant will I establish with Isaac, which
Sarah shall bear unto thee at this time in the next year.”
M.
Does this exclude Ishmael? Where in the Bible does it say that
Allah would not make any covenent with Ishmael?
m.
Nowhere.
Criterion of
the Prophet by Jeremiah
Jeremiah 28:9: “The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the
word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be
known, that the Lord hath truly sent him.”
The word Islam also signifies Tranquility, Peace. Peace between
the Creator and his creatures. This prophecy of Jeremiah cannot be
applied to Jesus, as he himself stated that he didn’t come for
peace (Luke 12:51-53): “Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on
earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth
there will be five in one house divided, Three against two and
against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and
the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and
the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her
daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.” See also Matthew 10:34-36.
UNTIL SHILOH
COME
This was a message of Jacob to his children before he died.
(Genesis 49:1): “And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather
yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall
you in the last days.”
Genesis 49:10: “The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a
lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him
shall the gathering of the people be.”
Shiloh is also the name of a town but its real meaning is peace,
tranquility, rest, i.e., Islam. It could never refer to a
town here. If it referred to a person, it could be a corruption of
Shaluah (Elohim), i.e., Messenger (of Allah).
So the Israelite Prophethood in the lineage of Isaac would stop as
soon as Shiloh comes. This corresponds with Surah 2:133: “Were you
witnesses when death came to Jacob? When he said to his sons,
“What will you worship after me?” They said, “We shall worship
worship your God [Allah], the God of your fathers Abraham, Ishmael
and Isaac, One God and to Him we surrender [in Islam].”
The shift of Prophethood to another nation was threatened in
Jeremiah 31:36: “If those ordinances depart from before me, saith
the Lord, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease
from being a nation before me for ever.” Also hinted by Jesus in
Matthew 21:43: “Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall
be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits
thereof.”
Baca I Mecca
The Holy Ka’bah
built by Abraham and his son Ishmael is in Mecca. This name Mecca
(Makkah) has been mentioned one time in the Holy Qur’an in Surah
48:24. Another name for Mecca is Bakka, depending on the dialect
of the tribe. This also has been mentioned one time, in Surah
3:96: “Verily, the first House [of worship] appointed for mankind
was that in Bakka [Mecca], full of blessing, and guidance for all
people.” Amazing enough, this word Bakka was mentioned by Prophet
David [PBUH] in his Psalm 84:6: “Who passing through the valley of
Baca make it a well, the rain also filleth the pools.” The well
here is the well-known well of Zamzam, still present now, close to
the Ka’bah.
The House of
My Glory
Isaiah, chapter
60:
1.
“Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is
risen upon thee.” Compare with Surah 74:1-3: “O, you [Muhammad],
wrapped up in garments! Arise and warn! And your Lord magnify!”
2.
“For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross
darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and his
glory shall be seen upon thee.” The advent of Prophet Muhammad
[PBUH] was at a time of darkness when the world forgot the Oneness
of God as taught by Abraham and all other Prophets including
Jesus.
3.
“And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the
brightness of the rising.”
4.
“Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather
themselves together, they come to thee: … Within less than
twenty-three years the whole of Arabia was united.
5.
“…… Because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee,
the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.” Within less than
a century Islam spread out of Arabia to other countries.
6.
“The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of
Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come, they shall bring
gold and incense; and shall shew forth the praises of the Lord.”
7.
“All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the
rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with
acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my
glory.” The tribes of Kedar (Arabia) who were divided were then
united. “The house of my glory” referred here to the House of
Allah in Mecca and not the Church of Christ as thought by
Christian commentators. It is a fact that the villages of Kedar
(now whole Saudi Arabia at least) are the only country of the
world which remains impenetrable to any influence of the Church.
11.
“Therefore thy gates shall be open continually: they shall not be
shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the
Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.” It is a fact that
the mosque surrounding the Holy Ka’bah in Mecca has remained open
day and night since it was cleansed by Prophet Muhammad [PBUH]
from the idols 1400 years ago. Rulers as well as subjects came for
Pilgrimage.
Chariot of Asses and
Chariot of Camels
The vision of Isaiah of the two riders in Isaiah 21:7: "And he saw
a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a
chariot of camels; …"
Who was the
rider upon an ass? Every Sunday school student will know him. That
was Jesus (John 12:14): "And Jesus, when he had found a young ass,
sat thereon; as it is written."
Who, then, is
the promised rider on a camel? This powerful Prophet has been
overlooked by Bible readers. This is Prophet Muhammad [PBUH]. If
this is not applied to him, then the prophecy has yet to be
fulfilled. That is why Isaiah mentioned further in the same
chapter (21:13): "The burden upon Arabia …." Which means the
responsibility of the Arab Muslims, and of course now of all
Muslims, to spread the message of Islam.
Isaiah 21:14:
"The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was
thirsty; they prevented with their bread him that fled." Tema is
probably Madina where Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] and his companions
immigrated to. Each immigrant was bothered by one inhabitant of
Madina and given food and shelter.
Isaiah 21:15:
"For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword and from the
bent bow, and from the grievousness of war." This was when Prophet
Muhammad [PBUH] and his companions were persecuted and left Mecca
for Madina.
Isaiah 21:16:
"For thus hath the Lord said unto me, within a year, according to
the years of a hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail."
Exactly in the second year of Hijrah (immigration) the pagans were
defeated in the battle of Badr.
Finally Isaiah
21:17 concludes with " … the mighty men of the children of
Kedar, shall be diminished: for the Lord God of Israel hath spoken
it." Kedar is the second son of Ishmael (Genesis 25:13) from whom
ultimately Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] arose. In the beginning the
children of Kedar were attacking Muhammad [PBUH] and his
companions. But many of them accepted Islam, the number of
children of Kedar who resisted, diminished. In some Bible verses
Kedar is synonymous with Arab in general, as in Ezekiel 27:21:
"Arabia, and all the Princes of Kedar …"
The
Prophet Like Unto Moses
God addressed Moses (Deuteronomy 18:18): "I will raise them up a
Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee [Moses], and
will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all
that I shall command him."
1.
Brethren of Israelites (descendants of Abraham through Isaac) are
Ishmaelite (descendants of Abraham through Ishmael). Jesus is here
excluded as he is an Israelite; otherwise it should be written "a
Prophet from among yourselves."
2.
Is Muhammad not like unto Moses? If not accepted, this promise has
yet to be fulfilled. The table below, taken from
Al-Ittihad, January-March 1982, page 41, is self-explanatory:
Following is a comparison between a few crucial
characteristics of Moses, Muhammad and Jesus which may clarify the
identity of "That prophet" who was to come after Moses:
Area of
Comparison Moses
Muhammad
Jesus
Birth Usual
Usual
Unusual
Family life
Married, Children
Married, children
No marriage
or children
Death
Usual
Usual
Unusual
Career
Prophet/Statesman
Prophet/Statesman
Prophet
Forced
Emigration To Median
To Madinah
None
(in adulthood)
Encounter
with Hot
pursuit
Hot pursuit/Battles
No. similar
Enemies
encounter
Results of encounter
Moral/Physical
Moral/Physical
Moral Victory
Victory
Victory
Writing down
of In his lifetime
In his lifetime
After him
revelation
(Torah)
(Al-Qur’an)
Nature of
teachings
Spiritual/legal
Spiritual/legal
Mainly spiritual
Acceptance of
leadership Rejected, then
Rejected, then
Rejected (by most Israelites)
(by his people)
accepted
accepted
3.
“put my words in his mouth.” So God’s revelation came through
Gabriel, and Prophet Mohammed’s own thinking was not involved. But
this applied to all Divine revelation. Perhaps here mentioned
specifically because compared with the revelation to Moses which
to Moses which came in “written tablets” as believed.
Deuteronomy 18:19: “And it shall come to pass that whosoever will
not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will
require it of him.”
In the Qur’an 113 of the 114 chapters (Surah) start with “In the
name of Allah, most Gracious, most Merciful.” Also, in their daily
work the Muslims start with this saying. Not in the name of God,
but “in my name,”
His Personal name which is “Allah.” As it is a personal name, it
is not subject to gender like God or Goddess, or to plurality like
God or Gods. Christians start with “In the name of the Father, the
Son and the Holy Spirit.”
It is to be noted that those who will not hear him, or who deny
him, will be punished. This corresponds with passages in the Holy
Qur’an: (Surah 3:19): “Truly the religion in the sight of Allah is
Islam.” (Surah 3:85): “And whoever desires a religion other than
Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he
will be one of the loser.”
My Servant, Messenger and
elect
A clearer
fulfillment of the prophecy of Muhammad [PBUH] is found is Isaiah
42:
1.
“Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul
delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth
judgment to the Gentiles.” Also called “My messenger” in verse 19.
No doubt all Prophets were indeed servants, messengers and elect
of Allah. Yet no Prophet is universally called by these specific
titles as Muhammad [PBUH] in Arabic “Abduhu wa Rasuluhul
Mustapha,” i.e. His slave servant and His elected
messenger. The testimony of a person accepting Islam is: “ I bear
witness that there is no deity but Allah Who has no partner and I
bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and messenger.” This
same formula is repeated five times a day through the minarets as
a call for prayers, another five times daily, immediately before
the beginning of each prayer nine times a day in the Tashahhud
during the minimum obligatory prayers, several more times if a
Muslim performs additional recommended prayers. The most common
title of Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] is Rasoolullah, i.e.
messenger of Allah.
2.
“He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in
the street.” This describes the decency of Prophet Muhammad
[PBUH].
3.
“ … he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.”
4.
He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in
the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. “This is to be
compared with Jesus, who did not prevail over his enemies and was
disappointed because of the rejection by the Israelites.
5.
…
6.
“I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine
hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the
people, for a light of the Gentiles.” “And will keep thee,”
i.e. no other Prophet will come after him. In a short time
many Gentiles were guided into Islam.
7.
“To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the
prison, and them that sit in darkness of the prison house.” “Blind
eyes, life of darkness” denotes here the pagan life. “Bring out
the prisoners from the prison” denotes the abolishment of slavery
for the first time in the history of mankind.
8.
“I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to
another, neither my praise to graven images.” Prophet Muhammad
[PBUH] is unique among all Prophets as he is the “Seal of all
Prophets” and his teachings remain undistorted until today,
compared with Christianity and Judaism.
9.
…
10. “Sing unto
the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth,
…..” A new song as it is not in Hebrew or Aramaic, but in Arabic.
The praise of God and His messenger Muhammad [PBUH] is chanted
five times daily from the minarets of millions of mosques all over
the world.
11. “Let the
wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the
villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock
sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.” From Mount
Arafat near Mecca the Pilgrims chant every year the following:
“Here I come [for Your service] O, Allah. Here I come. Here I
come. There is no partner with you. Here I come. Verily yours is
the praise, the blessings and sovereignty. There is no partner
besides you.” Isaiah 42 can never be applied to an Israelite
Prophet as Kedar is the second son of Ishmael. See Genesis 25:13.
12. “Let them
give glory unto the Lord, and declare his praise in the islands.”
And really Islam spread to the small islands as far as Indonesia
and the Caribbean Sea.
13. “ … He
shall prevail against his enemies.” In a short period the Kingdom
of God on earth was established with the advent of Muhammad
[PBUH].
King David Called Him
“My Lord”
Psalm 1 10:1: “The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right
hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.”
There were mentioned here two Lords. If the first Lord (the
speaker) is God, the second Lord (the one spoken to) could not be
God also, as David knew only One God. So it should read: “God said
unto my Lord, …” Who was that whom David called “My Lord”? The
Church would say Jesus. But this had been denied by Jesus himself
in Matthew 22:45, Mark 12:37 and Luke 20:44. He excluded himself
from this title as he was a son of David. How could David call him
“My Lord” if he was his son, he argued. Jesus said (Luke
20:42-44): “How say they that Christ is David’s son? And David
himself saith in the book of Psalms, The Lord said unto my Lord,
Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy
footstool. David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his
son?”
Jesus must have given answer not recorded in the four canonical
Gospels, but mentioned explicitly in the Gospel of Barnabas that
the promise was made in Ishmael, not in Isaac. David’s Lord was
thus Muhammad [PBUH] whom he saw in spirit. No Prophet ever
accomplished more than Muhammad [PBUH] did within a short period
of 23 years, and which remains unchanged until now.
Art Thou That Prophet?
The Jews sent priests and Levites to John the Baptist to inquire
who he really was. (John 1:20-21): “And he [John the Baptist]
confessed and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. And
they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not.
Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.”
The crucial question here is: Art thou that prophet? Who was then
the long-awaited Prophet after the advent of Jesus and John the
Baptist? Was he not the one like unto Moses (Deuteronomy 18:18)
who is Muhammad [PBUH]?
Baptizing with Holy
Ghost and with Fire
Matthew 3:11: “I [John the Baptist] indeed baptize you with water
unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I,
whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the
Holy Ghost, and with fir.”
If Jesus was alluded to here, John the Baptist would not go back
to live in the jungle again, but to cling to him and be one of his
disciples, which he did not do. So another powerful Prophet was
here alluded to, and not Jesus. The one coming after John the
Baptist could not be Jesus as both were contemporaries. Here again
was it not Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] alluded to by John the Baptist?
The Least in the Kingdom
of Heaven
Jesus was quoted as saying (Matthew 11:11): “Verily I say unto
you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a
greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding that is least in
the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.”
Can you believe that John the Baptist is greater than Adam, Noah,
Abraham, Moses, David and many other Prophets? How many pagans had
John the Baptist converted and how many followers did he have? But
this is not the main point here. The question is: who was the
least in the kingdom of heaven greater than John the Baptist? For
sure not Jesus, as at that time the kingdom of heaven was not yet
formed, and never claimed to the least, i.e. the youngest
one. The kingdom of heaven consists of God as the Supreme Being
and all Prophets. The least or youngest one is here Prophet
Muhammad [PBUH].
Blessed As
Peacemakers
In his
sermon the mount Jesus was quoted as saying (Matthew 5:9):
“Blessed are the peacemaker: for they shall be called the children
of God.”
Islam means also Peace: peace between the Creator and the
worshiper. Jesus could not mean his mission as peacemaker as he
did not come for peace. (Matthew 10:34-36): “Think not that I am
come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a
sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law. And
a main’s foes shall be they of his own household.” See also Luke
12:49-53.
Comforter
John 14:16: “And will pray the Father, and he shall give you
another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever.”
We do not know exactly the original Aramaic word used by Jesus for
Comforter. Other Bibles use Consoler, Advocate, Helper, and in
Greek Bibles the word Paraclete. There are different explanations
for it: Holy Spirit, the Word, a person, etc.
The Holy Qur’an states in Surah 61:6 that Jesus explicitly
mentioned the name Ahmad: “And (remember) when Jesus Son of Mary
said: “O, children of Israel! I am the Apostle of Allah (sent) to
you confirming the Torah (which came) before me, and giving glad
tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad
(i.e. the second name of Prophet Muhammad, and literally it
means the one who praises Allah more than others).”
Whatever the explanation is of the Comforter, we conclude that
Jesus left an unfinished work and that someone was coming to
complete his mission. Let us examine in the light of the Bible if
this Comforter fits the character of Prophet Muhammad [PBUH]:
1.
“Another Comforter”: So many Comforters had come and another one
was to come.
2. “That he may abide with you for ever”: as
there was no need for another one to come after him, and he was
the Seal of all Prophets. The teaching will abide for ever, will
remain intact. In fact the Holy Qur’an and all his teachings
remain as they were 1400 years ago.
3. “He will reprove the world of sin” (John
16:8): all other Prophets, even Abraham, Moses, David and Solomon
chastised their neighbor’s and their people for sin, but not the
world as Muhammad [PBUH] did. He not only rooted out idolatry in
Arabia within a 23-year period, but also sent envoys to Heraclius,
the Sovereigns of the empires of Persia and Rome, to Najashi, the
King of Ethiopia and to Muqauqis, the Governor of Egypt.
He reprimanded the Christians for dividing the Unity of God into
trinity, for having raised Jesus to Son of God and God Himself. It
was he who condemned the Jews and Christians for having corrupted
their Scriptures, demonstrated the birthright of Ishmael [PBUH],
and cleared the Prophets from accusations of adultery, incest,
rape and idolatry.
4. “The prince of the world is judged” (John
16:11). This is Satan as explained in John 12:31 and 14:30. So
Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] came to chastise the world on account of
judgment.
5. “The Spirit of Truth” (John 16:13). Since
childhood Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] was called Al-Ameen, i.e.
the Honest or Truthful One, and “he will guide you into all truth:
…” (John 16:13).
6. “For
he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that
shall he speak” (John 16:13).
The Holy Qur’an is God’s word. Not a single word from Prophet
Muhammad [PBUH] or his companions was included. The angel Gabriel
read it to him, he memorized it and it was written down by his
scribes. His own sayings and teachings were recorded in Hadith or
Tradition (plural, Ahadith).
Compare with Deuteronomy 18:18: “….. And will put my words in his
mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.”
This corresponds with Surah 53:2-4: “Your companion [Muhammad] is
neither astray nor being misled. No does he speak of [his own]
desire. It is only the inspiration that is inspired.”
7. “And he will shew you things to come” (John
16:13). All prophecies of Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] came to pass.
8. “He shall glorify me” (John 16:14). Actually
the Holy Qur’an and Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] have more reverence
for Jesus [PBUH] than the Bible and Christians themselves. The
following will clarify:
a. To believe in his death on the cross discredits his
prophethood according to Deuteronomy 13:5: “And that prophet, or
that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death …” It also stamps
him as accursed (May Allah forbid!) according to Deuteronomy
21:22-23: “… for he that is hanged is accursed of God..”
b. Matthew 27:46: “… My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken
me?” Could this not come from someone other than Jesus? Even a Non
Prophet would smile at agony as he knew that his death would win
him the title of martyr. Was this not an insult to Jesus in not
having faith in Allah?
c. We Muslims cannot believe that Jesus could label the
Gentiles as dogs and swine and address his mother with Woman, as
the Holy Qur’an states in Surah 19:32: “And dutiful to my Mother [i.e.Mary],
and [Allah] made me not an unblessed and arrogant.” Matthew 7:6:
“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your
pearls before swine ….” John 2:4: “Jesus saith unto her [Mary],
Woman, what have I to do with thee?”
Revelation to
Prophet Muhammad [PBUH]
The first revelation of Allah through the angel Gabriel to
Muhammad [PBUH] was the word “Iqra” which means “Read” in Surah
96:1-5. As he was illiterate he replied: “I cannot read.” This
first revelation was prophet sien in Isaiah 29:12: “And the book
is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this, I pray
thee and he saith, I am not learned.”
The order of the revelations is not as the order it is seen in the
Qur’an. In other words the first part revealed is not in the first
page and the last part revealed is not in the last page. That
these revelations came in installments and inserted in certain
order in the Qur’an as ordained by Allah, was also mentioned in
Isaiah 28:10-11: “For precept must be upon precept, precept upon
precept; line upon line, here a little, and there a little: For
with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to his
people.” Another tongue means here another language, not Hebrew or
Aramaic but Arabic.
Muslims all over the world are using one language, which is
Arabic, in calling their God, in their prayers, pilgrimage and in
their greetings to each other. Also this unity of language had
been prophesied in Zephaniah 3:9: “For then will I turn to the
people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of
the Lord, to serve him with one consent.” Alas the Truth has come
in Arabic, but some still expect Prophet Jesus [PBUH], who might
teach mankind to worship Allah in one unique language in his
Second Coming. We Muslims are sure that Prophet Jesus in his
second coming will join the Muslims in their mosques as he is like
any other Muslim, circumcised, not eating pork, and performing
prayers with ablution, standing, bowing and prostration.
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